The Doctrine of Election: Calvin vs. Barth vs. Luther vs. Schleiermacher
Comparing the doctrine of election in Karl Barth, John Calvin, Martin Luther, and Friedrich Schleiermacher.
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Stephen hi
Thanks for this and your other material, all brilliantly clear. Following on from this video, I’d love it if you could cover in more detail
(I) how Schleiermacher’s universalism echoes some of the Church Fathers. If so, why and when did the church lose sight of it? Was it when the church became the means to enforce public morality and needed a stick to wield ?
(ii) free will, always the terminological and ontological shadow hiding in any discussion of election and which I take to mean some sort of ‘autonomous power of contrary choice’. What would it mean to say we don’t have free will? What would it mean to say we did? Would it be biblical to say we are being led into some sort of free will?
Thanks
On a lighter note, Barth here sounds like the child in Sunday school who knows that the answer to every question is ‘Jesus’!
Greetings and Happy Easter!
Could you direct me please to something where I could read more about Schleiermacher’s view about reprobation being temporary and could be altered after death? Thanks for the thoughtful series of videos.
Hi Bernie! Thanks for watching and for the kind words. For this subject, you can see Schleiermacher’s essay “On the Doctrine of Election” (link: https://amzn.to/3ElrR6G) as well as the relevant sections on election in his dogmatics, “Christian Faith” (https://amzn.to/3JQVFJi). I also discuss it at length in my book, “Schleiermacher in Plain English” (link: https://amzn.to/3JPbPmI).
Stephen hi
Thanks for this and your other material, all brilliantly clear. Following on from this video, I’d love it if you could cover in more detail
(I) how Schleiermacher’s universalism echoes some of the Church Fathers. If so, why and when did the church lose sight of it? Was it when the church became the means to enforce public morality and needed a stick to wield ?
(ii) free will, always the terminological and ontological shadow hiding in any discussion of election and which I take to mean some sort of ‘autonomous power of contrary choice’. What would it mean to say we don’t have free will? What would it mean to say we did? Would it be biblical to say we are being led into some sort of free will?
Thanks
On a lighter note, Barth here sounds like the child in Sunday school who knows that the answer to every question is ‘Jesus’!
Greetings and Happy Easter!
Could you direct me please to something where I could read more about Schleiermacher’s view about reprobation being temporary and could be altered after death? Thanks for the thoughtful series of videos.
Hi Bernie! Thanks for watching and for the kind words. For this subject, you can see Schleiermacher’s essay “On the Doctrine of Election” (link: https://amzn.to/3ElrR6G) as well as the relevant sections on election in his dogmatics, “Christian Faith” (https://amzn.to/3JQVFJi). I also discuss it at length in my book, “Schleiermacher in Plain English” (link: https://amzn.to/3JPbPmI).